THE MARGIE JOSEPH STORY, PART 2: THE ATLANTIC YEARS (1972 - 1978)
Margie: “When you get to work with Arif Mardin, the monarch, then
you have arrived. He was one of the sweetest spirits that I have encountered
ever in my entire recording period. I loved him, and I felt his love for me – a
very gentle and kind man. He made you want to sing for him.”
After releasing two debut singles on Okeh and six singles and two albums on
Volt between 1967 and ‘72, Margie moved to Atlantic Records. Her husband at the
time, Larry McKinley, negotiated the deal with Atlantic’s Jerry
Wexler. Her first album for the label was produced and arranged by Arif
Mardin.
Born in Istanbul, Turkey, Arif Mardin (1932-2006) moved to Boston at age
26. He met Atlantic’s Nesuhi Ertegun at the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival
and became his assistant four years later. Nesuhi was the brother of Ahmet
Ertegun, Atlantic’s co-founder. Just seven years later, Arif had risen to Vice
President of the company. His list of collaborators is nothing short of
remarkable: Aretha Franklin, the Rascals, Ben E. King, King Curtis, Dusty
Springfield, Brook Benton, Roberta Flack, Donny Hathaway, the Bee Gees, Chaka
Khan, Peabo Bryson, Norah Jones, and many more. It’s no surprise that he
became a 12-time Grammy Award winner.
The Louisiana Weekly March 3, 1973, p. 3
COME BACK, CHARLESTON BLUE
Margie’s first single for her new label actually appeared not on Atlantic but
on its subsidiary Atco in July 1972. The label credits read “Donny Hathaway with
Margie Joseph.” Quincy Jones had hired Donny Hathaway to score the soundtrack
LP for Come Back Charleston Blue. The movie wasn’t a box office success,
and the soundtrack album (Atco SD 7010) peaked only at # 198 on the Billboard
200 that September. Still, the theme song – a gentle, flowing melody – remains
a standout at just 2:04 in length, longer than Donny’s 1:48 instrumental Bossa
Nova on the flip.
Margie: “Actually, I was in the studio recording the Margie Joseph album,
my first album on Atlantic, and Donny Hathaway came into the studio. He heard
me singing, and he had already engaged Valerie Simpson to do that movie
theme, but he wanted me on the recording. After they worked out their legal
matters, I did the recording with Donny. I thought it was fantastic. That was a
wonderful opportunity for me to experience Donny Hathaway. I held him in such
high esteem. He’s such a musical genius. And his daughter Lalah is
flooring me also. I was so hurt when we lost him. It’s such a great loss to the
record industry. I saw that movie, Come Back, Charleston Blue. It kind
of reminds you of Super Fly.” A film score for Super Fly was composed
by Curtis Mayfield, alsoin 1972.
In the film, the closing theme – Come Back, Charleston Blue – is sung by
Donny Hathaway and Valerie Simpson, but on the Atco single and soundtrack, Valerie’s
part was replaced by Margie because Motown would not permit Valerie’s vocals to
appear on an Atco release.
Margie’s first Atlantic album, Margie Joseph (SD 7248), was recorded at
Atlantic Studios in New York on two occasions: June 13, 1972 (seven tracks),
and September 19-20, 1972 (five tracks). The June session featured top-tier
session players, including Cornell Dupree and Hugh McCracken (guitars),
Bernard Purdie (drums), Jerry Jemmott (bass), Richard Tee (keyboards),
and Ralph MacDonald (percussion). Background vocals came from Cissy
Houston, Deirdre Tuck, Myrna Smith, Renelle Stafford, Sammy Turner, and Sylvia
Shemwell. Cissy, Myrna and Sylvia had all been members of the Sweet
Inspirations in the late 1960s.
LET’S GO SOMEWHERE AND LOVE
From the June session came Margie’s first single on the main Atlantic label.
Released in August 1972, Let’s Go Somewhere and Love is a mellow, country-soul
tune with a clip-clop beat. Written by Kenny Odell and Larry Henley,
it had been recorded earlier that year by Bobby Goldsboro and then Sandy
Posey under the title Why Don’t We Go Somewhere and Love. Six years
later, Kenny Rogers and Dottie West also covered it. Margie: “I
liked that one. Arif and Jerry (Wexler) picked a lot of those songs. That was
my first album for them, and they were trying to find me and present me.”
On the B-side was her powerful take on Rare Earth’s 1970 hit Born to
Wander, written by Tom Baird, aka Harold Thomas Baird, a Motown
musician/songwriter/arranger/producer who died tragically in 1976 at the age of
32 in a catamaran accident. Margie’s version appears on no album.
Her second single, Touch Your Woman, arrived in December 1972. Originally
written and released by Dolly Parton in March 1972, Margie’s version is
more rhythmic and soulful. “Jerry Wexler liked that song. He wanted me to do
it. When my first-born child heard it, she would stand on top of the kitchen
counter and entertain my friends with that song.” Its flip side, an optimistic,
downtempo and a bit bluesy love song called I’m So Glad I’m Your Woman, was
co-written by Arif and Margie.
The September session brought more notable musicians into the studio, including
David Spinozza (guitar), Chuck Rainey (bass), Norman Pride (percussion),
and David Newman (sax/ flute). From this session came the third single -
Margie’s dynamic and soulful version of Al Green’s Let’s Stay
Together, which reached # 43 on Billboard’s soul chart. The flip was her emotionally
charged take on Etta James’ 1967 I’d Rather Go Blind. “I chose to
do that, because I had a story to tell in my spirit. I wrote a monologue to
that, which I never got paid for.”
MAKE ME BELIEVE YOU’LL STAY
The album opens with the funky I Been Down, written by Maury Keener and
Rob Galbraith, and later covered by Sylvester and the Two Tons.
Next is Make Me Believe You’ll Stay, a country-soul ballad by John W.
Anderson that Margie had already recorded on her first Volt album in 1971.
“Arif really liked that song. I believe Jerry and he chose that I should do it
again.”
Donna Weiss’ dramaticballad Turn Around and Love You,
first recorded by Rita Coolidge in 1969, becomes a passionate showpiece
under Arif’s arrangement – almost like a stealthily growing show song. Later
also Dee Dee Warwick and Irma Thomas recorded the song.
Ben Peters’I’m Only a Woman - earlier recorded by Peggy
Little in 1969, then Dottie West and Tammy Wynette – becomes
a soulful and wistful ballad in Margie’s hands. The fast and funky You
Better Know It, written by gospel veterans David Williams and Calvin
White, adds even morevariety. Calvin is also known as a
member of the Sandpebbles and C & the Shells in the late
1960s.
There are still two quite familiar songs on the album. Bobby Bland’s
1959 classicI’ll Take Care of You, written by Brook Benton, is
another highlight. “I chose to do that. The story behind that song? I was about
between ten or twelve years old, and I used to listen to the radio station WLAC
out of Nashville. John R. (John Richbourg) was the radio announcer, and
around 10 o’clock every Sunday night he would play that song. I begged my momma
to stay up till after I hear that song. I felt that song in my spirit. When I
got a chance to record it, I did.” Her version is slow, bluesy, and deeply
affecting.
She also covers Bobby Patterson’s How Do You Spell Love,
featuring a notable sax solo from David Newman and electric piano by Arif. Margie’s
version is not as hard-hitting as Bobby’s own recording a few months earlier.
Some critics at the time claimed that Margie sounded too much like Aretha
Franklin, pointing out that Arif produced both singers and often used the same
musicians. Margie has acknowledged that “the company wanted me to be another
Aretha Franklin.” After hearing this album for the first time way back over
fifty years ago, that connection didn’t even cross my mind. I remember that my
first conclusions were that Arif seems to be quite fond of pretty country and
pop tunes and has the desire to transform them into a more soulful mode. Of
course, there are similarities in Aretha’s and Margie’s voices and singing, but
not as much as, say, when comparing Aretha to Shirley Brown. True, that
was still ahead: Woman to Woman was released only in August 1974. The
resemblance was overstated – Margie’s voice carries its own distinct strengths.
SWEET SURRENDER
Produced, arranged and conducted once again by Arif Mardin, Margie’s Sweet
Surrender album was recorded at Atlantic Studios in New York in summer 1973
with many of the same musicians, plus Richard Tee (keyboards), Norman
Harris (guitar), Bob Babbitt (bass), and Andrew Smith (drums).
Former Sweet Inspirations members Cissy, Myrna and Sylvia, plus Deidre,
returned, now joined by Judy Clay and Gwen Guthrie. The album was
released in early 1974.
The lead single, Come Lay Some Lovin’ on Me, written by Paul Kelly,
was released in October 1973.Paul had introduced this chunky, driving
number on his Don’t Burn Me album and interestingly had also released it
as a single only five months earlier, in May 1973. Margie’s version outcharted
Kelly’s (# 32-soul vs. # 95-soul). “Arif chose that song.” Stan Free plays
synthesizer on this track.
A mellow mid-pacer named Ridin’ High was placed on the B-side of the
single. It was one of the two new songs on the album. This sunny and positive song
was composed by Margie and Arif. “I was in love. The first time ever I was in
love, and I wanted to sing about it. I had divorced Larry McKinley in
1973. I only had one child, Dana, out of that marriage. My second
husband is the one I truly loved. He deceased ten years ago. That’s the first
time I had ever been in love. He was in military. Maybe that’s why I was
attracted to him. He wasn’t in the record business” (laughing).
MY LOVE
The second single, My Love, became the biggest hit in Margie’s career,
reaching # 10-soul and # 69-pop in 1974. Originally a # 1 hit for the Wings
one year earlier, Margie’s cover of this Paul & Linda McCartney’s song
was smooth and sentimental. “I was in New York and I heard the song in a car.
We were going to the studio. I told Larry ‘I’m going to cover that’, and as
soon as I saw Arif I said ‘I want to do My Love’, and he said ‘okay.’
Paul McCartney got in touch with Arif and told him that he really loved it. It
was very popular. I always closed shows with it. It was my closing song because
of the guitar ending. Cornell Dupree was a magical guitar player. I remember
watching him. He used to smoke a pipe.”
The B-side, Sweet Surrender, is one of Margie’s finest vocal
performances – a powerful, soulful remake of Bread’s 1972 hit (#
15-pop). “I believe that Arif allowed me to choose those Bread’s songs for the
album.”
Another Bread cover, Baby I’m-A Want You, becomes an emotional showcase
for Margie. In 1971 Bread earned a gold record with this David Gates’
song. Two more Paul Kelly songs appear, including Come with Me - from Paul’s
Don’t Burn Me album – which in Margie’s hands begins gently and swells
into a passionate plea. “People played that. People tell me all the time,
especially men, how they liked that song.”
Other covers include a pulsating stepper called To Know You Is to Love You,
written and originally recorded by Stevie Wonder and Syreeta Wright.
“Arif chose that one, and B.B. King recorded it, too.” If I’m Still
around Tomorrow is a beautiful and soft ballad, written by Ralph
MacDonald and William Salter. “That’s a classic. Ralph was in the
studio with me. He gave me that song.” Later Ralph himself recorded the song
with Roberta Flack. Margie picked the sweet and heartfelt (Strange) I
Still Love You, which originally appeared on Jerry Butler’s album The
Iceman Cometh in 1968. It was composed by Norman Harris, Mikki Farrow and
Jerry himself, and it was used as a flip to Margie’s upcoming single release.
Margie thinks very highly of the Sweet Surrender album and I agree with
her. I hope that it has made a strong and lasting impact on all of you who have
been able to listen to it. One song that Margie is especially fond of is a
mellow and spiritual ballad called He’s Got a Way, which its writer, Billy
Joel, had released in 1971. “That’s a gospel song to me. I could sing that
in church, and I’ve thought about singing it in church on many Sundays, too.”
WORDS (ARE IMPOSSIBLE)
Margie’s third Atlantic album Margie appeared in June 1975. The core
team – Margie and Arif – returned with some new musicians including Tony
Levin (bass), Stephen Gadd (drums), Hugh McCracken (guitar), Pat
Rebillot (keyboards), and Charlie Brown (tenor sax). Main sessions
took place in June and November 1974.
The first single, Words (Are Impossible), released in October
1974, is an English adaptation of the Italian song Vado Via.Enrico
Riccardi and Luigi Albertelli composed this melodic, big ballad for Drupi
in 1973. Among the musicians on Margie’s track there are Bob Babbitt on bass,
Stephen Gadd on drums, Hamish Stuart and Tony Bell on guitar, Carleton
Kent on keyboards and Armen Halburian on percussion. To complete
sweetening there are still Geil Kantor, Merle Miller and Tasha Thomas
on background vocals.
On Billboard’s charts, Margie’s single reached # 27-soul and # 91-pop. “That
was one of Arif’s choices, and Stevie Wonder loves it, too. I didn’t like it.
The actual lyrics were great, but I didn’t have the real feeling to it, but now
I’ve really begun to appreciate that and some other songs. In Jamaica and
Europe people were requesting it. They wanted me to sing it a lot.” Bobby
Hart and Danny Janssen wrote the English lyrics for Words.
The same session produced Margie’s second single off the album. The singer/songwriter
Robert John co-wrote with Michael Gately a song titled I Can’t
Move No Mountains for Blood, Sweat and Tears in 1972, and now Margie
discoed this pop song and made it a dancefloor filler, and Arif helped with
rich orchestration. Three years later Shirley Brown recorded her version of the
song. “Arif picked that for me. That was a chance for me to demonstrate my
ability to go pop. I performed it a lot in London, but you have to work-out,
when you’re getting ready to sing it” (laughing). On the flip there was Sam
Dees’ beautiful ballad named Just as Soon as the Feeling’s Over, which
Jackie Wilson cut around the same time but released only two years
later, and Sam himself and Uvee Hayes released it too. On Margie’s
sensitive and soulful delivery, Carl Hall is one of the background
vocalists along with Maretha Stewart and Tasha Thomas.
STAY STILL
Margie and Arif co-wrote a memorable toe-tapper called Stay Still, and
this romantic song peaked at # 34-soul in October 1975. “There again, I was in
love. I wrote the lyrics, and Arif put the music. I was always the writer of
the lyrics. I think Chuck Rainey played the bass. That bass line is so
smooth. I loved it.”
The very album opens with Margie’s and Arif’s almost psychedelic jam called Sign
of the Times, featuring Donny Hathaway as one of the background vocalists.
“Donny was around the studio all the time. Sign of the Times is like a
prelude to Carole King’s song.” That Carole’s song is a bouncy number
with social message called Believe in Humanity, which Carole had
introduced on her Fantasy album in 1973.
Bill Withers recorded his rather pessimistic, even gloomy song called The
Same Love that Made Me Laugh on his +’Justments album in 1974. “I
chose that. When I saw Bill Withers perform in New Orleans, that stayed in my
mind. I told Arif that I want to do that.” Moving in a more positive direction
lyrically, next Margie tackles Brian Potter’s and Dennis Lambert’s
haunting pop song named Who Gets Your Love, and it doesn’t differ much
from Dusty Sprinfield’s original recording two years earlier. “It was
brought to me by Arif. I love that song, and I got a chance to sing it the way
I want to sing it.”
The same songwriting pair of Ralph MacDonald and William Salter that wrote If
I’m Still Around Tomorrow on Margie’s Sweet Surrender album, penned
an almost fast-paced Promise Me Your Love, which flows almost like a
show song with strong strings and choir sweetening. Donny Hathaway is again one
of the background voices.
Margie turns David Pomeranz’s sweet and pretty ballad called If You
Walked Away into a strong emotional delivery, and finally there’s the
second Carole King song on the album titled After All This Time, which
Carole wrote and recorded first in 1971. The joyful message of this mid-tempo
melodic song resonates in Margie’s singing.
On Margie there were three original songs, and the overall sound was
more poppy than on previous albums. However, good arrangements and rich
orchestration on many tracks more than compensate it. Margie also likes the
album, but she has some remarks: “I had some very good albums and they were
just locked away – and just let them die. There were the best producers and the
best musicians, and to this very day I don’t know what went wrong. I don’t have
a clue. I did what I was asked to do. I gave everything in me – all those
songs, the performance, the delivery. That’s why I walked away from that
business and I didn’t look back.” Here Margie is referring to the year of 1978,
three albums away.
WHAT’S COME OVER ME
WMOT – “We Men of Talent” – was a record label founded in Philadelphia in 1973
by Alan Rubens and Steve Bernstein, and its product was initially
distributed by Atlantic Records, then from 1978 by Fantasy Records, and two
years later it switched over to an independent distribution. During its
ten-year existence, the biggest hits on WMOT was Frankie Smith’s gold
single, Double Dutch Bus, in 1981, and other significant artists on the
label included Major Harris, Blue Magic, Barbara Mason, Heaven and Earth,
Sweet Thunder and Brandi Wells. Alan Rubens: “We also had a
couple of giant hits over in Europe that weren’t hits in the States, Fat
Larry’s Band’s Zoom and Booker NewburyIII’s Love
Town.” The first peaked at # 2 in September 1982 on the official UK singles
chart, while the latter one went as high as # 6 in May 1983.
Alan Rubens
In October/November 1975 WMOT cooperated with one of Atlantic’s subsidiaries,
Atco, in releasing a single by Margie Joseph and a Philly group called Blue
Magic. Margie: “That was a one-time adventure with Alan Rubens.”
The lead tenor of the group, Ted “Wizard” Mills, had written a soft and
sophisticated Philly ballad called What’s Come Over Me, and the group
had recorded it on their debut album titled Blue Magic two years
earlier. By adding Margie’s vocals to the track, the producer and arranger, Norman
Harris, turned the single into a reasonable r&b hit (# 11-soul). This gentle
and sweet duet song appeared also on the Thirteen Blue Magic Lane album
in 1975. On the flip they put a light Philly dancer named You & Me (Got
a Good Thing Going), which was mysteriously credited to Mystro &
Lyrics, who actually are the brothers Melvin & Marvin Steals.
This collaboration between artists and labels expanded into a 1976 double album,
Live!, recorded at the Latin Casino, a New Jersey nightclub, and mixed
and edited at Sigma Sound Studios. The featured artists on stage were Margie,
Blue Magic and Major Harris. Among arrangers there were Jack Faith,
Richard Rome, Vince Montana, Jr. and Norman Harris, and if you look at the
list of musicians, you can spot such names as Larry James (drums), Edward
Moore and Ted Cohen (guitars), Larry LaBes (bass), Erskine
Williams (keyboards) - plus the horn section.
Margie: “That was my first time in Casino. Major Harris was the headliner. We
had to do choreography and all of that. It was a beautiful, beautiful show. We
could have taken that show on the road, but we didn’t. It ended there.” The
co-founders of WMOT, Alan Rubens and Steve Bernstein, are credited as the
executive producers of the album. Alan: “I put the whole deal together. The
concert was absolutely great. It was the first time something like that was
done, where they put three acts together for the Latin Casino. Charlie
Gerson, who owned the Latin Casino, was a friend of mine. One day we were
sitting around and talking about it and he said that he didn’t know if any of
those acts was strong enough on their own to star at the casino, but putting
them all together to play in that room would be something else. That was the
motivation to put it that way.”
The show opens with a rousing performance of the O’Jays’ recent golden
hit, I Love Music. All the singers took turns in this musical fiesta and
they were supported by the full Latin Casino Orchestra. The next three
songs are Margie’s solos. The beautiful Feelings was a hit for Morris
Albert in 1974 and after that the song has turned into a modern standard
with Walter Jackson and dozens of others scoring with it. Margie: “I
chose that song. That became like a signature song for me at that time – that
and My Love.” Margie’s live performances of both songs are quite
thrilling and very emotional. Between those two ballads she went up-tempo with Ridin’
High.
Next Major Harris hits the stage and does a duet with Margie on You’re a
Special Part of Me, a song that Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye released
in 1973. Major Harris and Blue Magic take the stage for the next 40 minutes
(sides B and C on the double album), until Margie and Blue Magic deliver a
highly improvised performance of What’s Come Over Me. They continue with
a surprisingly strong version of I’m Gonna Make You Love Me, which Dee
Dee Warwick recorded originally in 1966. The program ends with a show tune, which
sounds like a closing song in a cabaret, titled Funny Guy, Funny Girl, Funny
Love. Interestingly this unconventional song was composed by Joseph B.
Jefferson.
Margie: “When we recorded with Major Harris and Blue Magic at the Latin Casino,
it gave me the opportunity to feel like I was going to eventually venture into
my holistic dream in this business. I majored in drama. I have degrees in
speech and drama and I wanted to perform show tunes. I wanted to be performing
in musicals. When we did the Casino, I was ready to make that transition. I
want to acknowledge those artists. We’ve lost Major Harris, Keith Beaton
and Richard Pratt of the Blue Magic. I enjoyed them and I loved them.
They were so kind to me.”
ON CRUISES WITH ALAN RUBENS
Margie’s and Alan’s cooperation continued for some time still after the Live!
project. Alan: “My label was WMOT Records. Margie was not on our label.
Margie was on Atco, which was a label owned by Atlantic Records. After we did
the Latin Casino project, we recorded four sides with Margie, which were meant for
her next album, and then we turned them into Atco. I don’t think they put them
out. Norman Harris produced those sides.”
“In my opinion, considering Margie’s talent, she was being overlooked. They did
not make her a priority, for whatever reason. I don’t want to blame anybody. I
just thought that she was a lovely lady with tremendous talent. We thought we
could help by doing some records on her. I don’t know what really happened,
because we were not in control. Initially, I requested to work with her,
because I had heard her voice on some records and I just thought this lady is
phenomenal. She is the greatest female singer that I ever recorded with. I
loved her voice and her singing ability. She’s a sweet, sweet, wonderful lady. I
wished to make some records on her, and that’s how we got involved with Blue
Magic and Major Harris.”
After the Live! double album and those four shelved sides on Margie, the
two didn’t work together anymore. In the early 1980s, WMOT ceased to exist.
Alan: “We had a good run, but then we sold the assets. After that I worked with
quite a few labels, like CBS Records. I got involved with other artists and had
a production company. By that time, music had changed. The Sound of
Philadelphia, which we were very much involved in, had kind of run its course –
as far as radio and consumers’ taste, and people coming to Philadelphia to
record. We had changed the sound to other things. Business changed in the 80s
for a lot of us coming out of the Philadelphia area. I still had some success
in Europe through the 80s, but in the States the music like on Live! At the
Latin Casino was not in demand.”
“Today I’m the Chief Operating Officer of a company called StarVista Live,
which is a music theme cruise business. We charter big cruise ships for
2-3 000 passengers and we bring major entertainment onboard and relive
some fabulous music and wonderful eras. I bring a lot of major talent that I
know and worked with in the old days. In the 80s I worked with Rose Royce,
LTD and numerous others onboard. We also book late 60s bands and a lot of
English bands that I bring over. We do rock cruises, soul cruises and a flower
power cruise. We do nine cruises a year – altogether nine weeks of cruises per
year.” Among those 60s acts there are the Hollies, the Zombies, the Rascals,
the Yardbirds, Herman’s Hermits, Peter Asher (of Peter & Gordon), the
Family Stone (with Sly’s daughter running the band), Tommy James and the
Shondells etc., and they all want to entertain the Flower Power fans.
LAMONT DOZIER
One of Atlantic’s subsidiaries, Cotillion Records, existed from 1968 till 1986,
and initially the label was established for blues and southern soul. However, later
on it expanded to rock, gospel, and jazz as well, and subsequently still to
disco. Among basic soul artists that they had in their roster there were Otis
Clay, Darrell Banks, Brook Benton, Lou Johnson, C and the Shells, Baby
Washington, Walter Jackson, Laura Lee, King Floyd, Tammi Lynn and Irma
Thomas. All of them were not directly signed to the label but some appeared
there for a short period through leasing, distributing or similar deals. After Cotillion’s
hiatus without any releases from November 1972 to April 1976, the list
continues with Luther (Vandross), Sister Sledge, John Edwards, the Impressions,
Philippe Wynne, R.B. Hudmon, Wee Gee, C.L. Blast, Ronnie Dyson, Johnny Gill etc.
– and Margie Joseph.
After the revival of Cotillion Records in 1976, Henry Allen became the
president. “When I was told that I would be leaving the major label, Henry
Allen was chosen to be the person at Cotillion. I think he was the one that
actually resurrected that subsidiary. He chose Lamont Dozier. I was a
very big Motown fan and I can remember, when he said that Lamont would be
producing this album, I just felt so blessed. Of course, having Arif Mardin I
felt the same way, but it was a different feeling to know that I was going
somewhat back to my childhood days to have the producer who did all the Motown
hits.”
“I was a starry-eyed girl, who didn’t pay attention to details, nor the
business aspect of the entertainment field. I wanted to sing. I wanted to
display my gift, and that’s what all of the producers gave me a chance to do. I
considered Lamont the most challenging producer I had. He would push me. He
didn’t accept any excuses or justifications. He was the kind of producer, who
saw my potential. He knew I was young, and I do believe he had some type of
history on how I had been overlooked and that I was probably well before my
time. I just have that feeling, now in retrospect. Lamont really did put his
all into this album. I think he wanted to give Henry an album on me that my
fans could appreciate.”
HEAR THE WORDS, FEEL THE FEELING
Margie’s Cotillion album Hear the Words, Feel the Feeling (1976) was
recorded, mixed and mastered across four California studios: Kendun Recorders
in Burbank, Crystal Sound in L.A., Devonshire Sound Studios in North Hollywood
and ABC Recording Studios on Beverly Boulevard in L.A. Produced by Lamont
Dozier, rhythm was arranged by him and his loyal partner, McKinley Jackson,
who was engaged also in string and horn arrangements along with David
Blumberg and Dale Warren.
Among twenty musicians in these sessions, you can find such names as Ray
Parker, Jr. and Lee Ritenour on guitars, Jerry Peters and
John Barns on piano, Henry Davis on bass, Ed Greene, James Gadson
and Ollie Brown on drums, Gary Coleman on percussions and Eddie
“Bongo” Brown on congas. The Waters sisters and the Jones Girls are
among background vocalists.
Lamont wrote or co-wrote seven of the album’s nine songs, and most of them were
earlier recorded either by him, or the Originals on their California
Sunset album a year earlier on Motown. The title song – Hear the Words,
Feel the Feeling - opens the album and it was also chosen for the first
single off the album. Written by Lamont and McKinley, this memorable and
impressive ballad hit # 18-soul in Billboard. “I think Lamont actually wrote
that for me. That song was big in New Orleans.”
A beautiful and bittersweet ballad on the flip called I Get Carried Away,
written by Lamont’s brother, Reginald Dozier, and Althea Wylie,
makes this disc a great double-sider. McKinley Jackson had produced this song
for Freda Payne’s Payne and Pleasure album on ABC and it was released also
as Freda’s single in July 1974. BMI shows that the co-writer was Althea King,
and she just happens to be Richard “Popcorn” Wylie’s mother, so here you
can draw your own conclusions. Another Dozier-Wylie song that first appeared on
the Payne and Pleasure album and is included also on Margie’s LP is a
melodic and infectious mid-pacer called Didn’t I Tell You. Reginald
Dozier, also known as “the Mix Doctor”, has made his mark not only as a
songwriter but also as a producer and recording engineer, and he was a Grammy
Award winner. Unfortunately, he just passed on November 28 at the age of 83.
DON’T TURN THE LIGHTS OFF
A loping mid-tempo song named Don’t Turn the Lights Off was the second
single off the album. Released in September 1976, it derives from the
Originals’ California Sunset LP. Margie’s pleading delivery carried this
single up to # 46-soul in Billboard. “My children love that song. I really
would someday want to modify it to make it more updated. The rhythm, the track
on it is awesome.” On the B-side there was Margie’s very slow and haunting
“sigh of relief” called All Cried Out, which originates from Lamont’s Black
Bach album two years earlier.
The two up-tempo tracks on the album were scheduled to be included on Lamont’s Prophecy
album in 1975, but the whole project went unissued. Those tracks became
available only in 2000 on an Expansion CD titled The ABC Years and Lost
Sessions (https://www.soulexpress.net/lamontdozier_discography.htm). Prophecy is a
disco type of a dancer, while Something to Fall Back On is a more mellow
mover.
A melodic mid-tempo number with an enchanting orchestration called Why’d You
Lie is the second song lifted from the Originals’ California Sunset album.
One of the highlights on Margie’s album is Lamont’s beautiful and smooth ballad
called Feeling My Way, which runs over six minutes but never falls into
tediousness. On the contrary, it wraps you in its gentle flow and tenderly
sweeping mood. “I think I did a remarkable job on Feeling My Way, the
soul and the feeling of the song. I’m an old romanticist. I still believe in
love, no matter how this world looks today. Every song on all of my albums
tells you a story about love – how it hurts, how it makes you feel good, the
loss of it. It’s all there.”
Hear the Words, Feel the Feeling is a delightful and highly entertaining
album. “I didn’t really have total 100 % privilege of choosing a lot of the
songs. In fact, Lamont chose all of the songs (laughing), but every song would
tell my story.”
CHRISTMAS GIFT
There are still two more songs that Lamont Dozier composed and produced for
Margie, an easily rolling mid-pacer named Christmas Gift and a pretty
and melodic song called Feeling Like Christmas. “They were a special
request by Henry Allen as part of the Christmas album for Atlantic. It is
played devotedly every Christmas and I hear it everywhere in department stores
and Walmart.” The album, Funky Christmas was released on the Cotillion
label for the Christmas of 1976, and other artists on it included Luther,
John Edwards, Willis Jackson, Lou Donaldson and the Impressions. Although
not a commercial success, one significant purpose of the album was to
promote Atlantic’s newer artists.
As stated above, the song called Feeling My Way was one of the treasures
on the album that Lomont Dozier produced, and now – surprise, surprise! – two
years later the title of Margie’s next album is Feeling My Way, although
there’s not a song by that name on display. “It’s because I thought it (the
title) was so appropriate. I was being bounced all over, so I guess I was
saying I’m just feeling my way” (laughing).
Margie had contacted the President of Atlantic Records at that point, Jerry
Greenberg, and now she was back on the mother label, and moreover produced
by another legend in music, Johnny Bristol. “I asked for him. When I
started dating my second husband – I was married in 1976 – Johnny’s music in a
way steered me, and I loved the way he conveyed the message of love in his
music. Johnny didn’t give me much headway, because I found out that most of the
songs on the album Johnny had recorded himself. It was like he was doing
another Johnny Bristol album on Margie Joseph. But I’m grateful to Lamont and
Johnny, because they gave me some wonderful songs, and I loved every one of
them. And I enjoyed working with them.”
Recorded at Davlen Sound Studios in North Hollywood, music was mainly arranged
by Hense Powell and Sonny Burke. The rhythm section consisted of James
Jamerson Jr. on bass, James Gadson on drums, Hense Powell and Larry
Farrow on keys and David Williams, David T. Walker, Al McKay, Lee
Ritenour and Mitch Holder on guitars. Backing vocals were provided
by Deborah Tibbs, Lynda Evans and Maisha Grimes.
LOVE TAKES TEARS
Johnny wrote or co-wrote all ten songs on the album, and the taster single was
released already in 1977. Come on Back to Me Lover (# 85-soul in
Billboard) is a mid-tempo toe-tapper, a memorable song with a sharp rhythm. It
was backed with He Came into My Life, which Johnny had released in 1976
on his Bristol’s Crème album. Margie turns this smooth song into a faster
but nonetheless equally exhilarating version, and here you can also enjoy Ernie
Watts’ fine sax playing.
James Jamerson, Jr. is the co-writer on I Feel His Love Getting Stronger
(# 94-soul), which is a bouncy mid-tempo song that was released as the second
single in August 1978. How Will I Know on the B-side is a beautiful and
gentle ballad and it was co-written by Robert Torres, who also plays
percussion on most of the tracks and is listed as a production coordinator on
the album. “How Will I Know is a song that nobody would want me to
perform live, but I think that I would have done a great job on that thing, if
I ever had been requested to sing it live.”
The third single is a song, which should have been a hit – either for Johnny in
1975, when it first appeared on his Feeling the Magic album and was released
as a single (alas, only # 72-soul), or by Margie, when her single was released
in November 1978, or at the latest in 1982, when the Real Thing put out
their version in 1982. The song in question was Johnny’s irresistible Love
Takes Tears. Margie’s cover is funkier than Johnny’s original, but still
quite thrilling – but no show on the charts. “Some things just weren’t meant to
be. But love does take tears. All those songs on my albums are very relatable,
applicable. If you love somebody, sometimes you have to love him enough to show
that emotion. Love hurts.”
Hense Powell co-wrote a hauntingly beautiful and sweet ballad names Picture
of a Clown, which they put on the flip of Love Takes Tears. “Picture
of a Clown makes me cry, because it’s applicable to the way my husband, Errol
Bennett Sr, was, when I met him. Being a Vietnam war veteran, he’d gone
through so much and he really didn’t have a lot to snarl about. You know how
they treated veterans, when they came back from Vietnam… and some other
problems in the military they had to face. I brought him the happiness that he
needed in his life. I brought him the joy. We had two children, Erin and
Errol Jr, and eight incredible grandchildren from this marriage.”
Both the slow and emotional You Turned Me on to Love,and the
downtempo but slightly faster I Love Talking ‘Bout Baby derive from
Johnny’s Bristol’s Crème album, and especially on the latter one
Margie’s delivery is strong. “It’s the theme song of that album. It’s a very
popular song around my community. Especially children loved the way I sang that
song, and the track on it is awesome.”
“Johnny Bristol challenged me, because I don’t think he changed any keys in his
songs. It was hard working sometimes. I was trying to deal with the protocol. I
remember Smokey Robinson came by a couple of times and sat in on a
session. He didn’t perform any music, but it was just great to know that Smokey
was there sitting and enjoying the music. He’s very talented. Johnny was very
serious. Once in a while you might get a smile out of him, but Johnny was there
to work. He was good to me, but he had to work.”
The ninth song on the album, All Good-Bye’s Aren’t Gone, is a ballad
from Johnny’s Feeling the Magic album. This lilting beat-ballad is a
smooth and captivating number and it leads to the tenth and last song on the
album, a light dancer titled Discover Me (and You Will Discover You).
Johnny had co-written and produced this song for Diana Ross and the Supremes
on their 1969 album titled Let the Sunshine in.
Feeling My Way closed Margie’s 1970s era at Atlantic – though she would
later still return to the label. More about that and her four more albums and
other activities in the final part of the story.
Margie:“I really am humbled and grateful for all, who “saw” my gift and was a vessel
used by the “Giver of Gifts” to open doors…THANK YOU!”
DISCOGRAPHY
SINGLES
(Label / titles / # Billboard placings: soul/pop / year)
Atco 6899) Come Back Charleston Blue (# 102-pop) / Donny Hathaway: Bossa
Nova (1972)
Note: The A-side: “Donny Hathaway with Margie Joseph”
Atlantic 2907) Let’s Go Somewhere and Love / Born to Wander
Atlantic 2933) Touch Your Woman / I’m So Glad I’m Your Woman
Atlantic 2954) Let’s Stay Together (# 43 – soul) / I’d Rather Go Blind (1973)
Atlantic 2988) Come Lay Some Lovin’ on Me (# 32 – soul) / Ridin’ High
Atlantic 3032) My Love (# 10 – soul / # 69 – pop) / Sweet Surrender (1974)
Atlantic 3220) Words (Are Impossible) (# 27 – soul / # 91 – pop) / (Strange)
I Still Love You
Atlantic 3269) I Can’t Move No Mountains / Just as Soon as the Feeling’s Over (1975)
Atlantic 3290) Stay Still (# 34-soul) / Just as Soon as the Feeling’s Over
Atco/WMOT 7030) What’s Come Over Me (# 11-soul) / You & Me (Got a Good
Thing Going)
Note: Margie Joseph & Blue Magic
Cotillion 44201) Hear the Words, Feel the Feeling (# 18-soul) / I Get Carried
Away (1976)
Cotillion 44207) Don’t Turn the Lights off (# 46-soul) / All Cried Out
Atlantic 3445) Come on Back to Me Lover (# 85 – soul) / He Came into My Life (1977)
Atlantic 3509) I Feel His Love Getting Stronger (# 94 – soul) / How Will I Know
(1978)
Atlantic 3525) Love Takes Tears / Picture of a Clown
ALBUMS
MARGIE JOSEPH (Atlantic 7248; # 21-soul) 1973
I Been Down / Make Me Believe You’ll Stay / Let’s Stay Together / Turn Around And
Love You / I’m Only A Woman / Lat’s Go Somewhere And Love // You Better Know It
/ Touch Your Woman / I’ll Take Care Of You / I’m So Glad I’m Your Woman / How
Do You Spell Love / I’d Rather Go Blind
Come Lay Some Lovin’ On Me / (Strange) I Still Love You / Come With Me / Baby I’m-A
Want You / To Know You Is To Love You // If I’m Still Around Tomorrow / My Love
/ Ridin’ High / He’s Got A Way / Sweet Surrender
MARGIE (Atlantic 18126; # 53-soul) 1975
Sign Of The Times / Believe In Humanity / The Same Love That Made Me Laugh / Who
Gets Your Love / Promise Me Your Love / If You Walked Away // Stay Still /
After All This Time / Words (Are Impossible) / Just As Soon As The Feeling’s
Over / I Can’t Move No Mountains
LIVE!(WMOT, WM2-5000) 1976
Blue Magic, Major Harris, Margie Joseph: I Love Music / Margie Joseph: Feelings
/ Margie Joseph: Ridin’ High / Margie Joseph: My Love / Major
Harris, Margie Joseph: You’re A Special Part Of Me / Margie Joseph, Blue
Magic: What’s Come Over Me / Margie Joseph, Blue Magic: I’m Gonna
Make You Love Me / Margie Joseph, Blue Magic: Funny Guy, Funny Girl,
Funny Love
Note: Above are listed only the tracks that Margie is on
HEAR THE WORDS, FEEL THE FEELING (Cotillion 9906; # 38-soul) 1976
Hear The Words, Feel The Feeling / Didn’t I Tell You / Why’d You Lie / Prophecy //
All Cried Out / Something To Fall Back On / Don’t Turn The Lights Off / Feeling
My Way / I Get Carried Away
FUNKY CHRISTMAS (Cotillion 9911) 1976
Margie Joseph: Christmas Gift / Feeling Like Christmas
FEELING MY WAY (Atlantic 19182) 1978
I Feel His Love Getting Stronger / Come On Back To Me Lover / You Turned Me On To
Love / I Love Talking ‘Bout Baby / He Came Into My Life // Picture Of A Clown /
How Will I Know / Love Takes Tears / All Good-Bye’s Aren’t Gone / Discover Me
(And You Will Discover You)
(The second interview with Margie conducted on September the 15th; acknowledgements also
to Alan Rubens – interview conducted on January 8 in 2026 - and additional
source: the book What’d I Say – The Atlantic Story by Ahmet Ertegun).